Mahathir Speaks His Mind on Bersih 3.0

Former Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad in his blog Chedet posted his thoughts on the recent Bersih 3.0 Demonstration .We Extract the FULL VERSION HERE..

1. Sunday’s Bersih 3 demonstration is no doubt the biggest and the most violent in the series. It is likely that future Bersih will be even bigger and more violent.

2. The stated objective is to demand that elections be cleaner and fairer. But is this the real objective? I think not. Malaysian elections have been more clean than those in the authoritarian countries where results have always been obviously fixed. There would always be 99.9% of the votes going to the Government party or the President. If at all the opposition were to win, it would get at best 10% of the seats contested. After that the opposition would be prevented from taking their places in the legislature.
3. But in Malaysia there has never been an election, whether at State or Federal levels when the opposition had not won a substantial number of seats. In fact whole states may be lost to the opposition. And no matter how the Government party tried, it just could not wrest Kelantan from the opposition. 
4. At different elections throughout Independence different states were won by the opposition. Kelantan voted for the opposition in 1964 and 1969. In 1974 when PAS joined the Barisan Nasional, Kelantan was won by BN but continued to remain under PAS. It was lost to the BN only in 1978 but reverted to the opposition in subsequent elections.

5. Penang went to the opposition in 1969. In that election Perak and Selangor could not form Governments as neither the opposition nor the Government party had a clear majority.
6. Sabah was also lost to the opposition in one of the elections.
7. The worst result for the Government Party i.e. the party controlling the Federal Government was in 2008 when BN lost five States and one federal territory.
8. At the Federal level although the Government party never lost, but its majority was not constant. In 1969 it virtually lost, winning with an unworkable majority. In other elections the margin were sometimes above two-thirds and sometimes below two-thirds. In 2008 it won such a slim majority that there was real possibility that it would fall because a significant number of BN members of Parliament were expected to switch to the opposition.
9. The lack of consistency and absence of any pattern in the results of the elections showed that the elections were not fixed or manipulated. There were the usual accusations of foul play from both the Government party and the opposition and some of these went to the courts. The courts also did not show special favour for the Government party through their decision. There was no proven case of Government manipulation or hanky-panky in any of the cases.
10. All indicators point to reasonably fair conduct of the elections by the Election Commission. The Government could not rig or influence the EC.
11. Compare this with the advanced democracies and it would be very clear that the results are quite similar to them. The margins are never extreme one way or another.
12. It is absolutely certain that in the 13th General Election the opposition would win a fair number of seats in the State and Federal elections. Almost certainly Kelantan would go to PAS. There would be great difficulty for BN to win back the States it had lost.
13. So why the demonstrations and the demands for the elections to be clean and fair? Well should the opposition lose in the States or at the Federal levels, then one can safely assume that the opposition will claim that the Government had not conducted the elections fairly, that the Government cheated.
14. There would then be more demonstrations, perhaps bigger and more violent. Demands would be made for new elections to be held, or for the Election Commission to be disbanded and a new Commission set up.
15. Seeing how repeated anti-Government demonstrations have brought down Governments in the Arab countries, Nik Aziz of PAS now declares that over-throwing the Government through demonstration is ‘halal’. Obviously PAS is already contemplating Bersih-type violent demonstrations as a way of seizing power if it loses the 13th General Elections. The country will then suffer from violent demonstrations frequently. This will affect business and growth. Already Nik Aziz considers the present Government as oppressive and dictatorial and it is right to overthrow it.
16. The attention of the world would be sought and the Western Press would be co-opted to paint as black a picture as possible of the people’s opposition to the democratically elected Government. The support of foreign Governments and NGOs would come in as we see in the Arab countries. Their agenda would be different but they would see opportunities for pushing their regime change, for putting their candidate in power as Prime Minister.
17. This possibility is not far-fetched. The average Malaysian always think what happens in other countries will not happen here. But the Bersih 3 demonstration shows it can happen here. We know that almost every demonstration in Malaysia has been organised by Anwar. Now he is teaming up with Nik Aziz. Both see much to be gained by seizing power through unconstitutional means.
18. And when they are in power we can kiss goodbye to peace, stability and economic growth in this beloved country.

SERIOUS THIS…”Special Police Officer..!”

The court judge at the end of presiding the court case between Azmin Ali and the Police would need to keep the boistorous crowd quiet with his GAVEL. In the dock stands “a person who is so afraid to reveal the name of the Special Police Officer. Azmin cried out loud..The persons NAME SHALL NOT BE MENTIONED. 


Azmin Ali as specified and extracted fromWikipedia{  Mohamed Azmin bin Ali (born August 25, 1964 in Singapore) is a Malaysian politician and currently the Member of Parliament for the Gombak as well as assemblyman for Bukit Antarabangsa in the Selangor State Assembly. He is currently the deputy president of Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR) in the opposition Pakatan Rakyat coalition.

This case if  Rasah PKR deputy division chief R Thangam is found to be an accomplice to the serious crime of inciting violence Azmin Ali would need also to take the fall. We will not play gutterpolitics which can be read here:- but we need to have answers to



As we look at your polling results which we upload below if the answer of the police officer is not named the voters should know what to do. Is Azmin deliberately covering the officers identity. Why should he.?{ Abraham Lincoln was quoted :-“The ballot is stronger than the bullet.” but he also did say this You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.” 

BERSIH 3.0 participants and those who risks their lives to champion the BERSIH cause we ask you this.”Would you want a leader who is “………………………………….{whatever Makluk Asing names you want to put or throw at go ahead…..}

BERSIH intentions have been overtaken by a turn of events and it is now seen clearly as a TOOL OF THE OPPOSITION as the opposition parties in PKR,PAS and DAP are sending huge numbers in their members to take part in the rally nationwide.

The civil societies that are taking part musts now question themselves?

do you need any help here. Surely, Azmin Ali will be in a better position to assists you..} 

 Election results

Parliament of Malaysia: Gombak[2]
Year   Opposition Votes Pct   Barisan Nasional Votes Pct
2008   Mohamed Azmin Ali (PKR) 40,334 53%   Said Anuar Said Ahmad (UMNO) 33,467 44%
Selangor State Assembly: Bukit Antarabangsa[2]
Year   Opposition Votes Pct   Barisan Nasional Votes Pct
2008   Mohamed Azmin Ali (PKR) 11,731 52%   Haslinda Mohd Zerain (UMNO) 10,350 46% 

Azmin Ali “It’s Voldemort..You Forgot.!”

We have seen the news,read the reports,the videoclippings,saw the tears ,the violence and also heard all the stories which came out of BERSIH 3.0. The world media were informed three days before that Dataran Merdeka is a no,no for the planned 2hours sit down by  the Bersih 3.0  from 2pm to 4pm by the Mayor of DBKL.

An alternative was given for 4 stadiums to be chosen but the chairlady Ambiga Sreenevasan said it was too short a time to give out all the notifications. Well, we live in a backward Malaysia anyway as the internet and telecommunications facilities we have are well behind other countries as perceived by Ambiga.(not enough time to INFORM all relevant parties..lame excuse)

That was really a blow to Malaysians intelligence. But this is even better now. In this report which is in Free Malaysia Today portal this is being said by Azmin Ali and we extract so that no words are missed out,”

Speaking to reporters, Azmin said that his gestures at the time were intended to tell Anwar that he had negotiated with the police about allowing the protesters into Dataran Merdeka.

“You wanted to know what was that exchange? It was so noisy. There was no way for us to communicate. The gesture was [over] me negotiating with the police.”

“My response was that I had negotiated with the police, which I did with Anwar before I came to that location,” he said.

Azmin added that he had met with a “senior police officer “at the barricade, and had tried to get the latter to allow the crowd into Dataran Merdeka.

Admitting that he could not remember the “officer’s” name, he said that the latter allegedly responded: “I have gotten orders [to allow you in].”

WOW! he talked to the senior officer and did not know his name.

Great.!! let me refresh Malaysians.The “officer’ must have escaped from AZKABAN and the officer is also defying court orders which makes him liable to answer to all the MAYHEM  that followed.

Azmin the officer is according to J.K.Rowlings Harry Potter Series is  {drums roll… deng deng deng deng }…..LORD VOLDEMORT….the name that we cannot speak about..

Azmin you know this quote or does this not sound familiar,”You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”



Bersih 3.0″ DAP Senator NO to Dataran..??”

This breaking news from DAP Senator Tunku Abdul Aziz Tunku Ibrahim  should be commended. He said we extract,””They all start with peaceful intentions, no one want to cause chaos… But it can turn out to be violent and when that happens, who will be responsible?”

audie61 have been tweeted since yesterday and trying to tell Bersih chairperson Ambiga Sreenevasan the consequences of defying the authorities and also avoiding NEGATIVE WORLD PRESS. We extract some of our tweets,”

  • 1. Ambiga Bersih”so stubborn”The World media now knows that an”Alternative has been offered”Defiance is against instructions
  • 2. Laws are made by Man and can be broken.Laws are also to be followed Ambiga.The authorities have informed Bersih .
  • 3. BERSIH 3.0 will be clean no teargas as ALTERNATIVE of Stadium Merdeka offered. Dataran sit down what happens Blame AMBIGA
  •  4. This time if AMBIGA n Group are teargas the WORLD MEDIA cannot condemn.ALTERNATIVE GIVEN BY MAYOR OF KL.
  • 5. No need for Tears from teargas if BERSIH 3.0 in stadium AMBIGA to be blame if u cry or subjected to manhandled.
  • 6. BERSIH 3.0 Ambiga don’t use TIME as excuse n cannot turn crowd from DATARAN to STADIUM.DBKL can also TWEET,FB,SMS 4 u 
  •  7. AMBIGA makes mockery of Developed Malaysia where TWEET,SMS,HP,FB readily available n she says cannot inform ppl
  •  8.A mbiga Bersih 2days too late.”What are the social networking sites for? Malaysians don’t live in CAVES u know
  • 9. Ambiga”what lah? Merdeka stadium offered u said too late” what is the internet,twitter,facebook, media sites  for?

The above are 9 out of nearly 30 tweets and FB we have posted since yesterday and it has been retweeted to the personal tweeter of  Hishammuddin HOME MINISTER and also to Ambiga personally.


audie61 is also very pleased that ,”Tunku Abdul Aziz said it “irresponsible” of opposition lawmakers to support holding the rally at Dataran Merdeka because he believes act violates the law.
He added that Bersih should take up the authorities’ offer for an alternative venue as they are better at deciding security concerns.
“The whole idea is to protest. Why does it matter where? DBKL is the owner of (Dataran Merdeka),” he said.