MCA..”Do we need to say more..??”

Joey of audie61 received a number of smses and emails and mosts of it refers to “marriage of conveniences and now it’s time to break-up. Surely its also to take a dig at (Information.Communications and Culture Federal Minister) Raiz Yatims,”Inter marriages comments.” Also some said SPDP/PRS if merged will also lead to a SPLIT so better don’t KAHWIN(marry/merge)..

Well we reposts from Malaysiakini the full article for you to read:-

Ong-Chua fatal attraction ends
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Mar 6, 10 4:12pm
The second-largest BN coalition partner, the 61-year-old MCA is back on the public’s radar with a vengeance for all the wrong reasons, as the party is riven by internecine warfare.

NONESome described this week’s tactical power play within the MCA leadership has having trapped its embattled president Ong Tee Keat (left) in a politically checkmated position.

His principal rival turned ally under the so-called greater unity plan, his deputy Chua Soi Lek, had ambushed him with his resignation together with seven of his elected central committee supporters, forcing fresh polls for end of this month.

Will the latest scenario be a turning point for the MCA embittered by a hawkish president whose inclination seemed to be engaging in a year -long rivalry with his deputy president with the end result being the party splintering into cliques and factions?

Generally, will the party be able to heal in time to unite and win back Chinese support for the next general elections?

Former MCA’s research and planning department chief Stanley Koh talked to Malaysiakini.

Malaysiakini: What’s your read on the latest turn of events leading to the resignations of Chua Soi Lek as deputy president and the seven of his central committee supporters? That adds up to 21 resignations, with 13 from the Liow Tiong Lai faction.

Koh: Well, Chua has mentioned or reminded those who were surprised at his latest move that he had in fact said March to be a month when fresh elections could be held.

Despite many of us, including myself, being taken aback, I think the surprising element was either in the timing or that few of us actually believed him. I had doubts that he was committed and would actually contribute to events leading to fresh party polls.

But I must add that he had strategically timed the submission of the all resignations, coming as they did just before the party AGM and anniversary celebration.

So you agree that it may be a strategic move or carefully thought out and staged?

Yes, that is the significance of his move, joining his numbers with that of Liow’s 13, and so getting the two-thirds of central committee out of the president’s power bloc.

That actually cornered Ong Tee Keat, forcing him to hold fresh elections in the party.

Do you think as speculated or some claim, there was collusion between Chua and Liow? Reportedly, both Chua and Liow had maintained that there was no pre-planned contact or negotiation before the resignations.

If you remember, Ong (Tee Keat) wrote in his blog that he had anticipated the move by Chua. For any shrewd politician desperately hanging clinging to power, I am sure mulling over such a possible scenario is natural.

Let me put it this way, say, if you are leading one of the three factions, wouldn’t you ponder the possibility of the other two joining forces to gang up on you? I am not saying it actually happened but the suspicion is always there.

Are you saying that Ong had miscalculated Chua’s move?
I think Ong had thought of such a scenario but failed to anticipate the timing, if not , probably miscalculated the timing of Chua’s move.

NONE If you had read Chua’s (right)press release after chairing some committee on holding fresh party elections it suggested or gave the impression that the numbers required (two-thirds resignation of the central committee) failed to materialise. The conclusion, no fresh elections could take place.

In short, it became a red herring instead of a red alert.

Another indication, I remember a top party official who had phoned on the day of Chua’s announcement of the resignation who had described the “event” as a stab in the back (of the president), which made me think that the resignations may have actually caught Ong by surprise.

Or were there any reasons for Chua’s sudden move?

Obviously the so-called “Greater Unity Plan” had failed soon after that announcement, the re-shuffling of the guards in the party.

I mean, there have been peace plans before, and never like under this leadership when you drop leaders, some called it sacking, contributing meaningfully to peace within a party. That’s common sense.

But then common sense in politics can be uncommon, especially for those apparently lacking wisdom in understanding the essence of a peace plan.

During the Ling (Liong Sik)-Lim (Ah Lek) leadership crisis, no one was sacked or dropped, the status quo was maintained during that peace plan.

Despite all the publicity of the Greater Peace Plan, I gathered from an insider that the working relationship between Ong (president) and his deputy Chua continued to be strained and they had had decision-making or policy differences.

That probably made Chua think twice or even prompted him against continued cooperation.

There is this sensitive question, do you think there is any influence from powerful external sources (i.e. Umno) determining MCA’s course of action in resolving its problems?

Let me put it this way. First, by virtue of MCA’s position and role to pull in Chinese votes as a BN component, you as big brother, wouldn’t you be concerned? I think the answer is obvious.

Day 1 - 59th UMNO general assemblyTwo, there had been statements made by top Umno leaders before, reminding Ong to put his own house in order.

Three, on record, Umno has intervened in MCA crises before, notably the Ling-Lim leadership tussle.

So if you try to convince the man in the street that there is no interference, do you think he will believe you?

At the back of our minds, in fact especially to seasoned political observers, the power brokers had always been Umno.

And I must add that certain quarters had fully exploited the notion that Ong can stand up against external influences or pressures.

Of course, the purpose is to project an image that says “you see, we have a leader who can refuse to listen or pander to the wishes of big brother”.

The propaganda agenda of course is to canvas greater backing from within the party’s ranks for the president.

Conversely, few of us really know how the person (president) actually behaves or talks to Umno top leaders (in private or on a person-to-person face off).

What I mean is, hypothetically, he could behave like a hero outside but be a “yes” man away from the public eye.

How do you assess the position of the party president at this point following the care-taker’s meeting with decisions affecting the youth and women’s wings?

Ong’s favourite song is “Love Me Tender”. I can only put this in a way that the decision or advice to pressure the youth and women’s wings to hold their respective AGMs and subject their office-bearers to fresh elections will not endear the president to a large number of delegates from the wings for sure.

I think Ong can also sing, “My Way.” If you remember the lyrics: “And now the end is near, and so I face the final curtain….” Yes, Ong is inevitably facing his final leadership days.

Do you think he can still muster public support by playing up the PKFZ (Port Klang Free Trade zone) issue?

It is ironical. What is happening now is not the PKFZ issue which probably will put end to his political career.

It is his poor leadership as party presidentwhich many claim is the root cause of MCA’s perpetual instability.

NONE Not forgetting earlier that his political rivals had criticised him for projecting himself a hero on the PKFZ issue to justify the continuation of his tenure in office.

Ong had likened his situation to committing political suicide by tackling the issue head-on which probably antagonised some powerful quarters.

But more and more among the party rank and file actually are convinced that Ong’s political career is jeopardised by his own follies within the party and his erratic leadership.

There had been some comments that he is a good leader, with courage and so on and so forth? While others claimed he is a failed leader….?

Any judgement is always subjective. I don’t think he can blame anybody for his failed leadership (as claimed) but himself, if only he had evaluated his leadership weaknesses honestly, critically and with humility from the day he was elected in 2008.

I think, the day he backtracked on his own words by not resigning or stepping down following the no-confidence against him was the turning point in his political career.

If only Ong had remembered how the former Ling Liong Sik leadership had treated him when he was youth chairman, he wouldn’t have allowed a repeat of the scenario facing the youth and women’s wings by throwing the party’s constitution at them.

He might be following the letter strictly but has killed the spirit of the constitution.

It is not supposed to be used as a weapon to fight your political rivals or dissenters. Or what is the purpose of singing the party song with lyrics of unity?

Do you think the MCA will have a better future with a change in leadership and be prepared for the next general elections?

Let us face facts. First, I was criticised when I once mentioned that MCA has forever lost its glory. I don’t see any glory in the party under Ong Tee Keat’s leadership.

Some critics alleged that the president is more interested in “feng shui,” believing that the practice could help smoothen his presidency.

Ong had said he did not believe in the 100 days achievement stuff. Yet he praised the prime minister for achieving so much within the first 100 days.

Even if Ong had recorded some achievements, unfortunately his political blunders and bitter row with Chua had overshadowed all else.

If you ask party members and the public what Ong had achieved, most likely the reply will be his open confrontation with Chua.

And of course, PKFZ, Ong’s likely favourite claims of transparency and courage in exposing or bringing the culprits to book.

I don’t think the PKFZ issue alone can score votes for the party at the next general elections. In fact, the party is likely to lose more seats and to reverse that will be very tough.

Has the political culture in MCA shown any improvement? The reason for this question is that recently Ong has claimed that the DAP has not changed its political culture.

I have been working for the party for 28 years and had served three previous presidents, I have never seen or heard so much “dirty and malicious” campaigns in character assassination.

Some feedback alleged links to cyber-troopers and some leaders setting up unidentified proxy websites as propaganda weapons against anyone perceived to be the president’s rivals.

I am not in any way suggesting that the president himself is involved. 

But I have also not heard of any stern reminders from the president’s office against such negative political culture within the party.
Ong’s leadership suggests approval of the emergence of a new destructive culture of promoting intra-rivalry and in-fighting within the party.

Honestly, with such a leadership record, the party is facing a bleak future. I don’t think it can perform better than the March 8, 2008 poll.

As it is for many the MCA has already become irrelevant and the future does not look that rosy.

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6 thoughts on “MCA..”Do we need to say more..??”

  1. BN man says:

    MCA’s problems have been bugging them (the leaders) since the days of LLS and CJM. It’s a never ending episode of selecting the right kind of leadership to lead the Chinese. When OTK came into power, he was thought to be “the” man to lead the party, but it was not quite so. Now it’s back to SQ1, the leadership crisis must be trashed out once and for all. It’s good for the Chinese, it’s good for BN. I don’t see it as “marriages”, it’s just a tussle for control of the party.

  2. Mata Kuching says:

    The puppet master in UMNO may have partially succeded in supporting a group opposed to OTK to force a new election. It is undeniable that UNMO wanted to get rid of Ong to prevent the PKFZ issue from implicating UMNO leaders. This will certainly irk supporters of MCA and Ong’s faction.

    I am not sure how the MPs in Sarawak viewed the above issue and the recent event of PKR’s lawmakers been seduced by the PM and his wife with what is strongly believed to be taxpayers’ money.

    It has been reliably learnt that the all these events engineered by Najib and UMNO are already adding to his access baggage and making more than a dozen Sabah’s MPs very uneasy. They felt that Najib is inadvertently driving other BN component parties to commit political suicide with him.

    So UMNO and BN should not be over zealous and bragging now about that possibility of regaining 2/3 majority for the Sabah’s MPs will see it fitting to end their marriage with BN sooner than later.

    As a reminder, what an evil man proposes God will dispose for sure.

  3. Ho Ho Ho says:

    :arrow: KARMA will go after those EVIL :evil: goons that CHEAT,KILL,c4,CORRUPTED,DISCRIMINATE and many many sins they have done :oops: time will tell all :lol: :lol: :lol:

  4. Kinta says:

    Stanley Koh said, “I have been working for the party for 28 years and had served three previous presidents, I have never seen or heard so much “dirty and malicious” campaigns in character assassination.”

    Is he trying to hint The Star/Segi doing the dirty works stirr the MCA fights ? Like that sure MCA memebrs angry with Ong T Keat.

  5. liew says:

    Comment by yao siew Lian — March 9, 2010 @ 8:03 PM | Reply

    2.Ven. Phra Piya Thammo,
    Rumah Pangsa
    Blk A-7-9- Jln Padang Tembak,
    11400 Pulau Pinang,
    Malaysia

    Dear Devotees,

    Before I commence of my letter-writing toward. All of you, I would like to inform all of you that I am not satisfy with the lawyer, Dato YIP KUM FOOK due to his bad inspirit impressions because he sent an inspector to come to our Buddhist Temple to arrest me without any good reason, moreover, the lawyer, YIP KUM FOOK is not satisfy with Chief monk.

    When the Chief monk had me to go to his Temple already and he went away and left me alone to take care until Chief monk come back to the Temple first and he also told me not to leave the Temple if any committees or the chairman want to chase me out, you don’t leave the Temple at all understand? Then I said, alright? To the chief monk! On the second Day, YIP KUM FOOK came to our Temple and talk to me. He tired to make some inquiry from me and he asked me, where I come from? I told him that I came from Penang.

    Then, I told to the lawyer (YIP KUM FOOK) that the chief monk came to Penang and fetch me and invited me to accompany him to go to his temple in K.L. I am not aware that YIP KUM FOOK is not in a good terms with the chief monk, chief monk already in this way, YIP KUM FOOK try to create trouble with me unnecessary. That is why, the lawyer want to chase me out of the Temple. Then I asked the lawyer, why you want to chase me out of the temple? Moreover, the Temple is not belonging to you, UNDERSATAND? Then, I asked him, who are you? I don’t know you at all, you have no right to chase me or control me at all, UNDERSTAND? You are just like a layman only. Do you know the regulations that any the chairman or committee cannot control the monks and the Nuns at all, also UNDERSTAND?

    I scolded him like that. Then the lawyer (YIP KUM FOOK) is not satisfy with me and he told me that he will called the police to come to the Temple and arrest me. I told him to go ahead and called the police to come and arrest me. I won’t run away, I said to him like that. I have done nothing wrong toward you, why you want to arrest me? He said, he doesn’t like me to stay here. I asked him, why? Again. After this he got very angry with me, then he phoned up to the police and the police came to the Temple and told me to leave the Temple.

    I told to the inspector of the again, 1 am sorry, I won’t leave the Temple because the chief monk had instructed me not to leave the Temple without his consent, UNDERSTAND? Then the inspector told me to leave, again. I told him I cannot leave the Temple because the Chief Monk hasn’t come back yet. This time, the inspector got very angry with me and he took out his handcuff and try to threaten me, then I immediately show off my hands for him to lock me up but he scare, then again, the inspector told me leave the Temple again but I still don’t want to leave the Temple.

    Then I phoned up to the chief monk again and I told him that the inspector insisted want to arrest me, you better come back to settle the case for me. After this incident, Chief Monk came back to the Temple and take me to go to another temple and stay their. That’s all about this incidents! Last of all, I would like to inform all of you, that no committees or the chairman can control all the monks and Nuns at all also UNDERSTAND? “They are higher than the King,” also! So how can the laymen, the committees and the chairman to control them: – EVEN THE KING ALSO RESPECTED THE MONKS AND NUNS. Why the chairman doesn’t respect the monks and nuns? They will carry the sins later on, UNDERSTAND?

    Yours in Dhamma

    Ven. Phra Piya Thammo
    Penang, Malaysia
    Tel: 04-48272710

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    Comment by andy fong — March 1, 2010 @ 7:28 PM | Reply
    .-March 10th, 2010 at 8:54 am
    andy fong said:

    Comment by andy fong — March 1, 2010 @ 7:28 PM | Reply
    2.
    We always recieved news messages from Myanmar people, they are complainted about committees of temple and please see at below.
    Thanks
    Dear Sir and Madam,
    We are Myanmar group in Malaysia; we lived in Malaysia over decade and always went to one of temple in Taman Desa Jaya, Kepong, Kuala Lumpur and we were very sad and regreting with the committees of temple because they are using our monks in wrong conception of Buddhist teaching or Buddhist rules. We came to temple to help our monks and respected of our religion.
    That temple is president of name:Yip Kum Fook, that our monks said and he is invited our monks from Myanmar to in charge of that temple but without pay anything to our monks, added he and his not respecting of our monks and sometime he ordered of his people to collected item such as paper, mineral water etc. without inform any words to our monks. In our religious believed we can’t take anything of holy place, if we done we are sin.
    In pervious, our monk said the committees always asked money from him, when our monks gave RM20,000.00 in cash on 2001 to the committees, then committees keep silent, later committees make problem with our monk again and cancelled of our monk Visa permit to stayed in Malaysia, then our monks( Sadayaw Nandiya) go to Australia and our monk not come that temple at long time. “Yip Kom Fook gave our monk notebook computer for to cover of that amount of money our monk said”
    Many local people around temple said, now no more people come to this temple because committees is always make problem and we are heard from local people said: Yip Kum Fook ordered of his people to put fire of Hindu temple at Taman Daya, Kepong because he needed that place to make his business about many years ago. “Everybody known what he done for Hindu temple at Taman Daya, Kepong”
    Last time also he invited police to arrest the monks at holy place(temple) and locked the temple without afraid and shameful of people because he believed committee is big and has more authority, also his son always say to people: this temple is belonging of his father. “This temple donated from public, we are work hard for this temple”
    This temple the committees always changed the monks, now they change the new monk to in charge of temple, this new monk also complaint the bad things of committees because committees also wait for donation box only, they without help anything to our monks. And committees controlled of our monks not to talk more or complaint more, our monks lived there as slaver and afraid of committees members.
    In new building where remaining of Buddha statue marble; we have renovation of Buddha statue because that Buddha statue is put very low, we lift to highest the committees don’t like and unhappy. In our country, anyone be able to come temple to worship the Buddha but in Malaysia is different temple controlling by committees.
    We hope everyone preserve of Buddhist teachings, and please safety of our monks, not see only money as this of temple. When we asked some of our people ( Myanmar) and local people, the committees are very low of idea because is very narrow mind and without education of religions. And committees will not disturbing of our monks, monks are like our father to take care of Buddhism and temple is like our place of resolving of our problem.
    Recently, our monk(Sadayaw Ashin Indaka original from Madalay, Myanmar) has been staying in this temple also unhappy because the committees are not pay anythings to him, he is working in hardly to advise people and we also unhappy and very sad when heard the bad news from our monks. Sometime the committees people came and shouting in the temple without have any reason and done what they need to do, our monk said, the committees of this temple don’t have Buddhist teachings in their mind, may be next time Buddhist can destroy.
    From Myanmar Buddhist group in Malaysia but many word complaint by local Buddhist community in Malaysia. If anyone receive of this message(email), please forward or send to your friends to protection Buddhism in Malaysia.
    .-March 10th, 2010 at 8:55 am
    liew said:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    May be he(Yip) don’t know what the Buddha, if he know may be he is do like that, the Buddhist monks are students from Buddha times until today but students of Buddha have done well and done bad and but when they created good or bad they will response

    But not only this Datuk Yip come to advise them, all the monks have their teachers(Masters) and their monastry to resident, this Datuk Yip kum Fook unmindfulness or may be he proud in himself because he thought(think) he is Datuk

    Many people are very angry when go to read this article by Myanmar people and some said if my country(Myanmar) this Datuk Yip will people put fire on his house because so very dirty human
    .-March 20th, 2010 at 9:24 am
    liew said:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    The temple chairman Yip Kum Fook, who is also an MCA senator, said he hoped to increase the number of scholarship recipients next year.
    “Seeing the suffering of those around us, we should use our time to do good deeds.
    “When donating, it is not the amount, but the sincerity that matters,” said Yip.
    MCA vice-president Datuk Donald Lim Siang Chai, who has been taking part in the festival for the past five years, was also present at the celebration.
    He said compared with last year there was an increase in the number of devotees this year.
    ”There’s a lot of uncertainty in the world today, with the US economic downturn and rising cost of living.
    “Thus, many feel uneasy and insecure so they turn to religion for spiritual support,” said Lim.

    (Quote marks) ALL PARTIES INVOLVED MUST REALISE THAT NO RELIGION CONDONES SUCH ACTIONS. WE URGE THEM TO CEASE COMMITTING THESE IRRESPONSIBLE ACTS.(Yang di-Pertuan Agong Tuanku Mizan Zainal Abidin expressing his disappointment with the slander, lies and distortion of facts by the new media, Sunday star, 21 March 2010, Page N45
    .-March 21st, 2010 at 9:28 am
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